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Sunday at the Village Vanguard/Waltz For Debby

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Sunday at the Village Vanguard UHQR

Label: Analogue Productions

Produced By: Orrin Keepnews

Engineered By: David Jones

Mixed By: David Jones

Mastered By: Kevin Gray

Lacquers Cut By: Kevin Gray

By: Michael Fremer

July 19th, 2024

Genre:

Jazz Acoustic

Format:

Vinyl

A UHQR Go Round For The Classic Bill Evans Village Vanguard Albums Gets Some Blowback

"one large ear, equipped only with a psyche"

Based on some of the comments on this site under the original announcement of these UHQR Bill Evans releases you might think the subtitle quote was someone's reference to Analogue Productions Chad Kassem, but it's actually from annotator Ira Gitler's original liner notes for Sunday at the Village Vanguard. His point was that being a jazz critic doesn't mean he can't melt into the music and drop the analytical side of his reviewer brain.

These two records have been doing that to "civilians" for sixty plus years nor have critics changed their opinions of these records either. They've been released countless times, sometimes finding the old fans buying new upgraded editions and sometimes, and more importantly, reaching a new, younger audience. These are a vinyl revival dream demo pair to show off what records can do to hearts and minds.

The carping "again?" folks have a point since these two records were recently released as part of Craft Recordings OJC series and very well done, also cut by Kevin Gray. I went back and compared Waltz For Debby on the Doug Sax cut referenced by Fred Kaplan in his OJC review and his analysis of the Sax cut versus Kevin Gray's on the OJC is spot on with what I heard. Sax's cut is "hi-fi exciting", Gray's OJC sounds more like a live set at the Village Vanguard—and that includes the clapping, which is scary real sounding! Kaplan gave the OJC an "11" for sound. So what does this UHQR get?

But first, consider that copies of Mobile Fidelity's outstanding out of print AAA 45rpm "One Step" of Sunday at the Village Vanguard goes for $400 and up on Discogs and elsewhere, so there's demand for this record at 45rpm and Chad Kassem claims the sell through on both of these boxes following the announcement has been brisk—and I believe him. $150 versus $400+.

The Mo-Fi ....Village Vanguard release rightly gives subtle and deftly accomplished emphasis to Scott LaFaro's bass (as F.K. points out in his review, The Village Vanguard set was chosen to highlight La Faro) without pushing it into your lap. It's easy to hear why people like that one.

So what rating does this UHQR get for sound? I've heard some people claim the Clarity vinyl is not as "quiet" as other formulations but that's not been my experience and the copies I get are not "hand picked". As well-pressed as the OJC versions are, there are definitely quieter backgrounds here. Even the most cynical among you would notice if your system was up to the quiet.

Out of that comes an even more "tape like" rendering of the tape. Wisely it doesn't sound as if Kevin Gray changed anything from however he set things up for the OJC series so the basic sound is not at all different from the OJC but what is different is an even more subtle attack precision, and the quiet and 45rpm speed produces lingering sustain and noticeably more generous decay. The differences aren't revelatory—there's only so much that can be pulled from these tapes—but they are there especially if you're listening as "one large ear, equipped only with a psyche" and not as someone trying to analyze individual elements. Plus the sound is more uniform because the stylus stays away from the inner most grooves. These are more "tape like". If we gave out 12s, these would have to get 12s but we only go up to 11.

For what you pay you're entitled to packaging perfection and both gatefold jackets feature carefully chosen paper stock, "Tip On" gatefold construction plus a wonderful selection of individual and trio photos, different ones in each box.

The OJCs are a bargain and we are lucky to have them so you can enjoy these classic albums mastered and pressed so well or you can drop the extra and get them sounding that much better and presented best. But please don't post angry responses. There's nothing to be angry about here, though yes, we hope future UHQRs will be of deserving releases that haven't yet gotten received the royal treatment.

Music Specifications

Catalog No: UHQR 0017-45/UHQR 0018-45

Pressing Plant: Quality Record Pressings

SPARS Code: AAA

Speed/RPM: 45

Weight: 200 grams

Size: 12"

Comments

  • 2024-07-19 09:47:13 PM

    Come on wrote:

    I’m looking forward to those, inspite of having the others already! The benefit of the UHQR’s didn’t disappoint so far for the releases I have. Every bit of improvement and effort is worth it for this grade of music quality.

    So I expect it to be the best on average, although the transparency of the Mofi 45’s and the 3D mids magic of the SH involved 45’s are hard to beat.

  • 2024-07-19 09:55:11 PM

    TJH wrote:

    UHQR - The Emporer‘s New Clothes. As to those Jazz classics. Superfluous as a hump, at least to those knowing.

  • 2024-07-19 09:55:14 PM

    TJH wrote:

    UHQR - The Emporer‘s New Clothes. As to those Jazz classics. Superfluous as a hump, at least to those knowing.

  • 2024-07-19 11:02:48 PM

    Anton wrote:

    I love comparing pressings, but I admit to some fatigue with keeping up with reissues. These records are on my pressing comparison list, but....I have them in my cart and haven't hit 'purchase' yet.

    I'm waffling.

  • 2024-07-20 06:41:57 AM

    Bret wrote:

    I am a little confused from the review. Does the new UHQR Sunday at the Village Vanguard sound better than the Mofi one step? Does the new UHQR Waltz For Debby sound better than the recent OJC issue? If there is any sonic improvement then it’s worth it for me.

  • 2024-07-20 10:34:56 AM

    tim davis wrote:

    I speculate that the audiences at The Village Vanguard shared quite a few "scary real" versions of the clap BITD.

  • 2024-07-20 02:24:28 PM

    Tomato Sandwich wrote:

    I'm not buying these because I bought the superb new OJC's at a fraction of the cost of these UHQR releases. But point taken that if you want the best then the UHQR's are there for you. I hope AP gets creative with future title selections. The Marley releases were outside the box. It'd like to see more surprises like those releases.

    • 2024-07-20 03:28:39 PM

      Come on wrote:

      Aside of the fact that my welcome surprises would probably be different from yours, I’m skeptic they will happen very often. My guess in contrary would be that not too far away the whole Fantasy 45 sets will be rereleased in new remasterings and some of them (as those Bill Evan’s here) as UHQR. Some really deserve the UHQR treatment. But rather than expecting surprises, I expect more doubles, not only from AP, but in parallel from all reissue companies (as we see with Craft, Impex etc.).

  • 2024-07-20 05:17:12 PM

    Jim LaBrie wrote:

    there's obviously a market of buyers who want these; there's nothing "wrong" with releasing them again.

    however - there's also a huge (larger?) market for the highest-quality 33rpm packages ... so, Chad, if you're "listening", please consider splitting future releases 50/50 - half 33, half 45

  • 2024-07-20 07:34:52 PM

    Tom wrote:

    I’m almost tempted to order Waltz for Debbie, more and more reviews are using “tape like” in either vinyl reviews or when reviewing tables or cartridges. I have the Tape Projects issue of Waltz and no copies I own on vinyl up to now even comes close to the tape.

    • 2024-07-20 09:18:45 PM

      Come on wrote:

      I’m happy that “tape like” is the new “like playing live in my room”, as we know how different (not always better) this would sound than any recording.

      Anyway I guess most who use either of those expressions didn’t ever experience their argument (other than you or Michael). We just have to remember that sometimes (not only in case of Living Stereo), the vinyl sound even may improve by the use of the production gear (cutter head or cutting gear effects) while certainly still suffering by other process related effects.

  • 2024-07-20 10:31:37 PM

    Come on wrote:

    Not sure Michael, how you can be sure that your releases are not hand picked, even if you get them sealed. If I’d have to send you records for review, I’d hand pick them ;-) The fact that most reviewers praise the flatness and quietness of all records they review speaks for it imo.

    What makes me sceptic is my own experience and I’m usually getting a few records weekly, most just from the best pressing plants, no matter if “quality” is in their name or not.

    My experience within the last few years as a guess is (I have and extensively use an ORB flattener and a very good record cleaner):

    19 of 20 records I get are warped, at least slightly.

    1 of 5 records I get has pressing defects at least of minor grade (occasionally slight noise that doesn’t go away with washing)

    1 of 20 records has more severe pressing defects which would justify an exchange

    Yes, clarity vinyl is rather more noisy on average than less, compared to black vinyl from AP and mostly not comparable with the Mofi or Craft 1steps or the Impex or old Mofi or Japanese pressings.

    • 2024-07-20 10:35:18 PM

      Come on wrote:

      That said, I’m not picky and nearly never complain and have records exchanged (maybe 1 or 2 a year).

    • 2024-07-21 03:58:38 PM

      Darryl Lindberg wrote:

      Your observation that 1 in 5 of the records you receive have "pressing defects at least of a minor grade" roughly corresponds with my own experience. I buy a fair number of reissues and something else I've found is that price makes absolutely NO difference. I've paid what I consider significant moolah for some supposedly carefully produced LPs, only to find that the pressing quality is not what I would have hoped for. And, like you, I'm pretty, tolerant!

      • 2024-07-21 09:21:04 PM

        Come on wrote:

        Yeah, the one thing is to be aware, it’s a kind of hand made product which is difficult to cut and manufacture perfectly…the other thing is, that the Japanese achieved it already 40-50 years ago. No warps, no pressing defects, no noise. And only the latter had to do with the better vinyl quality all those years ago. Even today some records are of similar quality, it just seems impossible to get similar continuity.

  • 2024-07-23 09:00:21 PM

    Rashers wrote:

    I have several copies of both of these albums. I have listened to "Waltz for Debby" countless times, often late at night - and cannot tell you how many times I have been a little freaked out by the sensation that someone was in the room with me! The clinking of glasses, the backchat - the swinging jazz. You just feel that you are there - in the Village Vanguard - more than 60 years ago. Stunning. I'm hoping that these records live up to the previous UHQR quality sound (Pretzel Logic excluded - I want a refund there). I bought the Craft version. I'm buying these. Don't care what the begrudgers think.

  • 2024-07-23 09:00:24 PM

    Rashers wrote:

    I have several copies of both of these albums. I have listened to "Waltz for Debby" countless times, often late at night - and cannot tell you how many times I have been a little freaked out by the sensation that someone was in the room with me! The clinking of glasses, the backchat - the swinging jazz. You just feel that you are there - in the Village Vanguard - more than 60 years ago. Stunning. I'm hoping that these records live up to the previous UHQR quality sound (Pretzel Logic excluded - I want a refund there). I bought the Craft version. I'm buying these. Don't care what the begrudgers think.

  • 2024-07-23 09:00:27 PM

    Rashers wrote:

    I have several copies of both of these albums. I have listened to "Waltz for Debby" countless times, often late at night - and cannot tell you how many times I have been a little freaked out by the sensation that someone was in the room with me! The clinking of glasses, the backchat - the swinging jazz. You just feel that you are there - in the Village Vanguard - more than 60 years ago. Stunning. I'm hoping that these records live up to the previous UHQR quality sound (Pretzel Logic excluded - I want a refund there). I bought the Craft version. I'm buying these. Don't care what the begrudgers think.

    • 2024-07-23 09:01:10 PM

      Rashers wrote:

      Aplogies - the post popped up three times.

    • 2024-07-23 09:01:12 PM

      Rashers wrote:

      Aplogies - the post popped up three times.

  • 2024-07-24 02:04:21 PM

    Zimmer74 wrote:

    Well, I have numerous versions of these albums, and last night I listened to the UHQR of Sunday .. This is the best yet, I agree with the review, even better than the MoFi 1-Step and the new OJC. I also feel that the UHQR of A Love Supreme is the best yet, by an even greater margin.